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Jane CommunityMember
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Jane CommunityMember

In order for it to be accessible, only vehicles with disabled stickers should be allowed up. Make all the spots up top disabled-only. Everyone else can walk or ride up. It would be much safer without vehicles speeding up and down.

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sandra zollman
sandra zollman

It would be much safer without walkers for drivers.

sandra zollman
sandra zollman

It isn't a matter of being handicapped. All people have the right to go up the butte. Taxpayers already had to pay for a trail for walkers and that still isn't enough for you. Get used to not getting your way in everything.

CB
CB

Most seniors don't have a handicap placard. Sorry, but the elderly deserve to enjoy Pilot Butte, too.

Maggie Olson
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Maggie Olson

Alot of people besides the handicapped are unable to walk up to the top. People with asthma and other medical conditions don't always qualify for a handicap sticker. This comment is really exclusive to one category of people, leaving out senior citizens and many others.

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Jane CommunityMember
Jane CommunityMember

Anyone that can't walk 200 feet or who has limited mobility is eligible for a handicapped sticker under Oregon law, so they can just get one. I'm a senior citizen and walk up, as do many others.

Dianne Price
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Dianne Price

Less impact on the area.

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No

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Monica Mack
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Monica Mack

That would prevent many mobility challenged people from enjoying the beauty of Pilot Butte

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jerry
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jerry

So, the Butte should be open to able-bodied people only? Remember, you may not always be able-bodied. Just a thought.

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daniel tovar
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daniel tovar

does everything have to change in town to meet the few

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sandra zollman
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sandra zollman

Wondering why walkers are consistently trying to keep drivers out of public areas. If you feel the butte is to dangerous to share with cars then go walk somewhere else. Walkers aren't special people with special rights. You already destroyed all people's from using Shevlin Park to enjoy.

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John J Gonzales
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John J Gonzales

No, this is a state park that should be accessible to everyone to be able to enjoy this Bend jewel.

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Dave Tucker
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Dave Tucker

This would discriminate against a large number of people who are not able to make such a difficult hike.

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jerry
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jerry

So, the Butte should be open to able-bodied people only? Remember, you may not always be able-bodied. Just a thought.

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Deb Kizer Dyck
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Deb Kizer Dyck

Well, while I'm not incapable of walking or hiking, I certainly know people who cannot make such a strenuous trek, and it would be wrong not to allow everyone to enjoy that view!

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Deb Kizer Dyck
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Deb Kizer Dyck

Well, while I'm not incapable of walking or hiking, I certainly know people who cannot make such a strenuous trek, and it would be wrong not to allow everyone to enjoy that view!

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Angela MacManiman Porterfield
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Angela MacManiman Porterfield

That restricts the butte for able bodies only. We like to take our 90 year old mom up there occasionally.

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Georgia Springer
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Georgia Springer

I HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES AND CANNOT WALK FAR. i ENJOY THE VIEW FROM THE TOP OF PILOT BUTTE BUT HAVE TO DRIVE TO GET THERE. THERE ARE CITIZENS (WHO PAY TAXES) HERE BESIDES WALKERS AND BIKERS TOO, YOU KNOW.

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Jane CommunityMember
Jane CommunityMember

Why are you shouting?

Bob Johnson
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Bob Johnson

What about the handy capped It's always been open to motor vehicles .that would be like asking hikers and bikers to stop using. Why should it close just because it has gotten more popular maybe they should hike or bike where vehicles don't travel

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CB
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CB

It will never happen. It's an accessibility issue. State Government will never close it to vehicles.

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Maggie Olson
Maggie Olson

Alot of people besides the handicapped are unable to walk up to the top. People with asthma and other medical conditions don't always qualify for a handicap sticker. This comment is really exclusive to one category of people, leaving out senior citizens and many others.

Jane CommunityMember
Jane CommunityMember

They already do for several months.

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9 Comments
Mark Mueller
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Mark Mueller

We already do. I wish some of our neighbors would do the same with their yard lights.

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Beaver Fan
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Beaver Fan

I love looking at our beautiful night skies!

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Dianne Price
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Dianne Price

I like to watch the stars!

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Jane CommunityMember
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Jane CommunityMember

I already do. I only have Dark Sky rated outdoor fixtures. I hate glare.

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Sussie Due
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Sussie Due

My sister is an Astronomer so it's a must here .

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Yoleen Faerber
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Yoleen Faerber

Doesn't matter what I do with my lights because one of the brightest, most poorly focused streetlights is right outside my bedroom, lighting up my home, my yard, and my neighbors homes like a crime scene. Shame on the city of bend.

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Lynn Huntley
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Lynn Huntley

We live in an area without street lights and it is so nice to look up and see the stars and moon so clearly!

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Tracy Evans
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Tracy Evans

I live where there are no street lights. I like it that way.

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No

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sandra zollman
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sandra zollman

The only light pollution at my house is the ultra bright city street lights. The city is the cause of light pollution.

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Yes

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11 Comments
MATT FALKENSTEIN DDS
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MATT FALKENSTEIN DDS

Anyone who has pedaled a Class 1 ebike (the ONLY type in contention) quickly realizes two things: first, they don't go any faster than a meat-motor bike and second, they REQUIRE work from the rider.

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Todd Brown
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Todd Brown

Yes,,Ebikes should be allowed on trails! Why wouldn't they be allowed? Mine has "Pedal Assist" which I am peddling at all times.

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Carl England
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Carl England

Ya’ll need to understand. These are not the kids you see flying around town on throttle e-bikes. Mountain E bikes are quite expensive and are designed for mountain biking and for serious mountain bikers. Most of the people you will see on them initially will be people with disabilities.

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Dave Custer
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Dave Custer

Let people ride whatever they want

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💛🖤 RAG 💛🖤
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💛🖤 RAG 💛🖤

Class 1 electric assist bikes should not be discriminated against, they are capped at a max of 20mph, provide assistance to the people who for whatever reason need assistance to tackle parts of the trails and they won't do any damage to the trails. Other national forests provide access already!

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Linda C May
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Linda C May

I am 66 years old. I ride a ebike so I can get out on the trails & forests I love. Otherwise I couldn't. Not everyone is a speed junkie. There are many bike riders that speed and do damage to the land. Ebikes are here to stay. Stop penalizing them.

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Loretta Ryll
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Loretta Ryll

For many who have invisible disabilities, the Class I pedal-assisted e-mountain bikes, make it possible for these individuals to enjoy our forest single-track trails. They want to stay healthy and active. Class I ebikes are NOT the throttled ebikes we see zooming around the streets of Bend.

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Tammie Bendele
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Tammie Bendele

The once beautiful city of Portland has been destroyed by liberal government! It’s time to turn the city back into a safe place to live. Governor Kotek will not stop the destruction. Instead she allows the destruction to continue under pretense of freedom of speech. She needs to be recalled!!!

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Jim Petsche
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Jim Petsche

They don't put any more damage to the trails than regular bikes and in many cases less. Generally they are ridden by older riders who go slower

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Duane Wyman
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Duane Wyman

Not all trails are suitable or compatible for e-bikes and other users. What is next, e-bikes on the PCT or ridden to the summit Of South Sister...?

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Erik Thompson
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Erik Thompson

I am 62 and my e mtn bike allows me to ride trails I'd otherwise never ride.

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No

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Peter McGann
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Peter McGann

They are ridden frequently by inexperienced people. They have too much speed when approaching hikers. Many cannot stop adequately. Their silence is dangerous when approaching from behind. There should be drivers license requirements. Peter SNRA/ Ketchum pdmcgann@gmail.com

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True Omen
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True Omen

E bike owners are mad they bought into the hype before reading the rules. If it has a motor it is a motor bike. Not my fault you are lazy. Mtb'ing is hard. It is not for everyone.

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island er
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island er

Ebikes are motorized. They can already access forest roads and ohv trails. They are a hazard to mtbers on single track.

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Frank Dietsch
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Frank Dietsch

They are motorized. I have been sprayed by dirt and gravel when the went flying by me at great speed and have seen them pop wheelies going up the steep trail. Motorized bikes belong on the many OHV trails.

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Dianne Price
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Dianne Price

People only!!

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CB
CB

Gatekeeping our public lands, eh? Pathetic.

Rick Allen
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Rick Allen

It is a motorized Vehicle period.

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Rob Pempin
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Rob Pempin

E-bikers need do to do their own footwork to obtain land for E-bike trails just as we have done for Mtn bikes for years now. The excessive speeds especially climbing & entitlement is out of control. Stop taking the soul out of MTB biking, do the footwork & obtain the land.

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Dennis Bennett
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Dennis Bennett

There are many ways to hack these ebikes and make them go over 20mph. https://www.ebicycles.com/how-to-make-your-ebike-faster/ Also, there will be no one to police the trails to make sure that on class 1 bikes are out there. For example, people illegally riding the trails with ebikes now.

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Mark Davis
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Mark Davis

More power and speed will cause greater damage to the trails and create a dangerous situation for all users.

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Loretta Ryll
Loretta Ryll

I encourage you and many others to rent a Class I pedal-assist emountain bike and then form an informed opinion. These bikes are not throttled, can't go above 20 mph, are not noisy and provide those with invisible handicaps some assistance so they can enjoy the thrill of biking our forested trails.

Todd Miller
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Todd Miller

It's a motorcycle with peddles. Internal combustion engine motorcycles aren't allowed either for the same good reason, erosion and safety of the mixed speed of riders and hikers.

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💛🖤 RAG 💛🖤
💛🖤 RAG 💛🖤

That's a lie, they have no throttle and are capped at a 20 mph no matter how hard you peddle! BTW damage to the trails is done by the speed demons on mountain bikes!!

Loretta Ryll
Loretta Ryll

Class I pedal-assist emountain bikes are not throttled so no internal combustion, they are capped at 20 mph. No pedaling =equals NO power. I encourage you to Google the descriptions of the various classes of ebikes.

Kimmy Wasatch
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Kimmy Wasatch

There are more than enough parks and trails in and around Bend for ebikes. We do not need them in our forests. Forests are abused enough already and need to be reserved as forests.

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James Rosser
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James Rosser

Because mountain biking is for exercise not tourism. There are plenty of other places to ride e-bikes.

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Geoff Freeland
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Geoff Freeland

As ebikes get more powerful, they create trail damage. Might as well allow motorcycles if you're gonna allow ebikes.

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CB
CB

You obviously know nothing about class 1 ebikes and are just regurgitating nonsense you heard from an unreliable source.

Judith Van Gilder
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Judith Van Gilder

These trails are mean for people who are out EXERCISING. There are plenty of FS roads where people with e-bikes can ride. Also available are plenty of dirt bike trails. Please leave these trails to those of us who are enjoying the peace and quiet.

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CB
CB

Judith, please educate yourself before commenting. Class 1 ebikes are pedal assist, they aren't tearing up the trails any more than a regular mountain bike. They help people with disabilities and the older generation enjoy the great outdoors. Stop gatekeeping our public lands.

Lexus Maximus
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Lexus Maximus

They travel too fast and tend to have an attitude that they own the trail. I have not only seen electric bikes but other bikes in the wilderness areas already and my experience has not been a positive one with them.

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Ed Drahos
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Ed Drahos

Not a fan of more trash and junk strone all over national forest. There's a serious problem with waste as is, without making the problem worse.

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James Rosser
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James Rosser

This misses the point of physical training which is to start exercising on easier trails and slowly build up to more challenging trails as one gets stronger. E-bikes are just a shortcut allowing one to jump to the more challenging trails without the proper training. People just want a magic pill.

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Gary Kayser
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Gary Kayser

E-bike are indeed motorized. Cause more erosion to the trials. E-bikes are a death sentence to horseback riders.

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Jo Kendrick
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Jo Kendrick

They run over people and scare pets.

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Gerald Smith
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Gerald Smith

They are wrecks waiting to happen with no enforcement of any of the rules. They should be required to follow the same rules as motorcycles. That's what they are.

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