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48%
Yes

Do you have a laser on your home defense gun? Which one and why?
39 Comments
Norbert E Lichte
10
Norbert E Lichte

I have a Viridian laser/light combo on my XD40 easy to see and hits where I aim.

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Carl Fairbank
2
Carl Fairbank

I use a Lasermax on my glock 19 w/night sights.

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John Parinello
2
John Parinello

second shot gets on target faster

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Walter Wellman
2
Walter Wellman

no need for a site picture inside the home. accuracy will not be an issue with a laser

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Tyrone Turner
2
Tyrone Turner

My wife has one on her's. Laserlyte on a Taurus tcp

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Blue Panda
2
Blue Panda

I consider it a necessity to potentially ward off a boogie man! No denying, the combination light/laser is the best.

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Michael Minjack
2
Michael Minjack

Yes----easier to aim !!!

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Paul Willard
2
Paul Willard

Easier to aim under low light/no light, have relatively low-priced unit for now w/light/laser combo

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Jeff Long
2
Jeff Long

In case I must shoot from an odd position where I cannot use my sights.

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Visitor
2
Visitor

I have one on my Kel Tec Sub 2000 because the sights need help.

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Budd Johnson
0
Budd Johnson

easier target acquisition from odd or short range self defense shots

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Frank Park
0
Frank Park

in addition to iron site the laser is an additional mean of getting the shot on target. laser can also serve as additional intimidation factor.

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Moon Shadow
0
Moon Shadow

I purchased a set of Crimson Trace laser grips for my 1911 for those once in a million chances that I will need to shoot in an awkward position and can't get my iron sights into my sight picture.

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Jim Hall
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Jim Hall

Very quick target acquisition in low light situations. Confidence as I shoot....the round goes exactly where the dot appears every time. Co witnessed to the iron sights so I have both bases covered.

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Gerald Hopkins
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Gerald Hopkins

I also have a tactical light below the laser.

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Joe Folsom
0
Joe Folsom

Faster & more accurate aim (especially if in the dark or with defused lighting).

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Paul L Hardy
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Paul L Hardy

I wear trifocals and sometimes having target and sights in focus at the same time is difficult, especially at longer range as a threat approaches. When in range it is't a problem

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Dennis McKenry
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Dennis McKenry

I use Crimson Trace, easy to use, and I can get on target quickly.

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Norm Wana
0
Norm Wana

Allows me to fire accurately when the sights are not usable!

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Scott Morgan
0
Scott Morgan

Lasers are great for the "old eyes" problem. At home defense distance, "point shooting" is quite effective but the laser, if it works, improves the shot placement.

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Charlie Given Jr
0
Charlie Given Jr

I have a Crimson Trace laser grip on my G23.

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Scott Schoemann
0
Scott Schoemann

I have a guide rod laser in my Springfield XD40 subcompact. Not that it is required but it IS a tool. It serve more tan just as a targeting device, but as an intimidation tool. and it works

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Mike Walker
0
Mike Walker

The laser is on my wife's pistol. I work nights and have taught her point and fire for cqc. The laser is a good aid.

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Håkon Haraldsson
0
Håkon Haraldsson

LaserLite on my KelTekPF9

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Tom
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Tom

Because I have one and it shows up better than iron sights inside a dimly lit house.

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Kevin Yost
0
Kevin Yost

one of these days I intend to invest the money on green, don't know what brand. why, my eyesight sucks without my glasses and cross eye dominent

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John Galtwell
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John Galtwell

I just bought a Veridian laser myself; my farsightedness has gotten bad, and a laser is cheaper than a good reflex sight on a pistol

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Owen P. Bermann
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Owen P. Bermann

The laser can help when shooting from an awkward position where lining up the sights may be difficult, otherwise, iron sights are my first choice.

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Robert Tuck
0
Robert Tuck

Adrenalin could cause you to aim improperly. Any aiming aid would be a welcome bonus in a bad situation.

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USMCRECON
0
USMCRECON

I felt the Laser would give me an edge in an emergency. Also, the laser gives family members more feelings of security

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Mark Rochester
0
Mark Rochester

Because it's necessary to have the tools made for your weapon to allow you to perform to the best of your ability with your weapon.

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Brandon Williams
0
Brandon Williams

Aids in aiming, especially in low light. Actual psychological effect to the criminal to see a laser on them.

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Frank Szabo
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Frank Szabo

Reading a lot if pros and cons of a laser and I decided to go with C5L viridian Adrenaline effects are different for various people,I train with a laser just like all the other motor skill drills.

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sky cod
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sky cod

Because a good laser is easier to see in low light that tritium night sights.

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Jack Hagen
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Jack Hagen

I have lasers on all of my defensive handguns.

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Larry Wolfe
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Larry Wolfe

Quicker sight acquisition. Helps if your eye sight isn't so good if you don't have time to grab your glasses or have enough light.

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Auroarah Summers
0
Auroarah Summers

My S&W .38 Bodyguard came with the lazer attached. It was one of the reasons why I purchased. It may help avoid an incident, but it will also help in hitting the target if need be. Confidence.

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David Schirtzinger
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David Schirtzinger

I have a laser light combo on my P226 as a just in case situation. I have Siglite sights on as well which is my go to aiming mechanism. But should the worst ever happen I have the tools I need.

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52%
No

Do you have a laser on your home defense gun? Which one and why?
32 Comments
Joe Couture
10
Joe Couture

Because I spent the extra money on a quality firearm. A laser can come later as my eyesight weakens with age.

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John Kirkpatrick
3
John Kirkpatrick

Home defense gun is a Shotgun

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ptdecker
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ptdecker

The question should be moot unless one wants to put a bullet into a neighboror child one should have a shotgun instead of a handgun for home defense and a laser would be irrelevant.

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Steve Harmon
2
Steve Harmon

saiga 12 doesn't need one with 00 buck.

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Rudy Baraga
2
Rudy Baraga

but I want one bad!

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Dave Hagstrom
2
Dave Hagstrom

Too expensive and not really necessary.

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Stan Tyler
2
Stan Tyler

I own a gun with a laser, but my night stand home defense gun has a very bright blinding light attached to it.

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Timothy Reid
2
Timothy Reid

haven't bought the mount I want yet

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Walter Triplett
1
Walter Triplett

A mounted light is a better option for me.

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Demetrious Fuller
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Demetrious Fuller

Training in all situations is best.

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Dale Single
0
Dale Single

Haven't put the money out. Also I prefer to use the sights provided on the firearm, but would like to try one for fun.

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anthonyaumiller
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anthonyaumiller

No but I think It would be a lot better if I did

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Organic Democracy
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Organic Democracy

I'm considering it, but my skills/techniques worked well past 30 years.

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David McKishen
0
David McKishen

I do not want to relely on something that may not work in an emergency. I practice point of aim at least 3-4 times per week with each weapon that I carry. The only thing I rely on is myself.

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Andrew Litz
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Andrew Litz

I don't have a laser on any of my guns, it's easier to pinpoint your position from the other end of it. K.I.S.S.-either using sights or point shooting with or without uses less to go wrong.

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Orange Bird
0
Orange Bird

Because the answer is No.

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Rick Freeman
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Rick Freeman

I do not own one, cannot afford high price.

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Samuel A. Grim
0
Samuel A. Grim

Haven't bought one yet, but I plan to when I have the cash.

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Ralph Kelly
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Ralph Kelly

Im a site and shoot kind of guy!

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Larry Cherry
0
Larry Cherry

I couldn't afford a laser.

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Ed Messinger
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Ed Messinger

I find a light more useful.

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Michael Phillips
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Michael Phillips

Because most people won't even have time to turn a laser on when their adrenaline is pumping, much lest pay attention to the red dot...they will be concentrating on the individual breaking in.

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Michael Phillips
Michael Phillips

and I cannot spell either...LOL Less not lest...

Robert Birkholz
0
Robert Birkholz

I have not purchased one

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Harold Edney
0
Harold Edney

Because I have a light. Mostly likely I'm going to have trouble with a breakin at night. Need to see where I'm shooting.

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Sue Smith
0
Sue Smith

Don't feel it is needed and it may give away my position in an environment where I already have the advantage of knowing it better than the invader.

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Don Brack
0
Don Brack

Difficult to find lazer that fits my gun. Still looking. Cal .45 Para Ord P 10 made in Canada.

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W Gotz
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W Gotz

Haven't bought one yet. Had one on gun I sold and used it to deter a break in. Will not depend on laser solely for aiming as may not work when needed. Lasers best to deter entry, not aim inside.

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Terry Sanner
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Terry Sanner

I just haven't gotten one yet.

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38%
Yes.

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62%
No. WINNER

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38%
Yes.

31 Comments
Kevin Yost
6
Kevin Yost

I carry an m9 loaded with +P hollowpoints, FMJ is for targets, I never want to worry about over penetration, the price will have to come down a bit, but I would love to have these bullets for carry.

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Austin Schmit
3
Austin Schmit

I will once price drops. Would be nice to KNOW my small caliber, low round EDC weapon can get the job done in 1 shot. FTFs would be my biggest concern.

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John Kirkpatrick
2
John Kirkpatrick

In order to test it's effectiveness. Appears that it may be a safer home defense ammo.

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Robert Morin
2
Robert Morin

The point of home defense is to protect my family , if there is a better way to do it then why not .

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Kenneth Ray Farrow
2
Kenneth Ray Farrow

If someone is going to try to hurt my family I want to be to stop them immediately

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Rick Wright
2
Rick Wright

I will buy it and test it to see how it performs at our facility.

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Joey Sankows
2
Joey Sankows

To give it a try and, if it performs well, get more for my derensive ammo.

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Paul Willard
2
Paul Willard

This stuff looks like it would get the job done in a hurry....

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Visitor
2
Visitor

If it is tested to be effective, certainly.

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James Allen Wyatt
2
James Allen Wyatt

Prudence dictates that one should be armed as well or better that our adversaries, be they foreigh or DEMESTIC, THE LATTER CURRENTLY THE MUCH GREATER THREAT.

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Michael Lentini
2
Michael Lentini

Bigger wound chanel. More energy transfere.

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Hoss Nelson
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Hoss Nelson

Looked it to it and seen some testing. Current carry the 50gr liberty 9mm @2000fps after self testing. Not sure if I'll switch but will try it out.

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Yellow Frog
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Yellow Frog

My right to shoot once for total stoppage

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Mike Bell
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Mike Bell

its important to re-enforce muscle memmory

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Wchristepher Batts
0
Wchristepher Batts

my personal protection, as well as the protection of my family IS my reason!

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Eric Urso
0
Eric Urso

Because if it is someone I care about being attacked, I want the odds stacked in their favor as much as possible. we didn't go looking for trouble ,it came and found us...

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Thomas Rogers
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Thomas Rogers

if you have it in 40 & 44 mag ill buy them

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Charles Conway
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Charles Conway

I'd like to test fire them into ballistic gel under various conditions and with various guns to see if their claims are accurate. Actually use them against someone? Hell no!

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Emil J Raffio
0
Emil J Raffio

Curiosity killed the cat. We will see!

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Michael Sobczynski
0
Michael Sobczynski

When it comes to defense...Send only the Best!

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Geoff VanSickle
0
Geoff VanSickle

.380 and 9mm have been considered in-adequate by many as stopping power. These will change that and allow me to carry a smaller firearm that still has one shot stopping power.

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Clay Burtts
0
Clay Burtts

to try it , home defense

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Michael Chupich
0
Michael Chupich

I would use them as the first two rounds in my home defense gun magazine. Even at $12 per round it would be better to have them and never need to use them.

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Leland P. Riggs
0
Leland P. Riggs

If it stops an intruder with one shot, it lessens the intruders ability to inflict harm.

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Dan Bostan
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Dan Bostan

The ultimate round! 9mm bullet is more effective than a .45 round. Therefore shooting a 9mm handgun , with lower recoil and more bullets per magazine answers the need for ultimate protection

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Erik Pace Birkholz
0
Erik Pace Birkholz

IF I could afford it; I'd buy to test it 1st. A tech paradygm shift in ammo demands it IMHO. i.e. Mfgr claims 0 malfunction feed/fire/eject failures. I'd verify ballistics & accuracy up to 25+yds

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Kevin Loberg
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Kevin Loberg

from what I saw in the video....if this ammo works as intended it may very well be the last defensive rounds I will ever buy....that's if I can find some for dad my wife an myself.

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Wayne Gotz II
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Wayne Gotz II

looks like the best defense round available

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Thomas Joy
0
Thomas Joy

Maximum efficiency without maximum penetration through the body cavity..

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Joe Folsom
0
Joe Folsom

Think the rounds are awesome.

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62%
No.

50 Comments
Joe Sobotka
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Joe Sobotka

First off, god forbid, if I ever had to shoot someone and got into a civil case the other sides attorney would have a field day with the R.I.P bullet especially the way they're promoting it. Second my

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David Neckolaishen
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David Neckolaishen

Too expensive. Probably be a problem in a Court Case!!

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Gary Darrar
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Gary Darrar

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/daniel-zimmerman/g2-researchs-rip-ammo-ballistic-testing-phase-one/

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Steve Harmon
2
Steve Harmon

00 buck is all I need.

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Bob Johnson
2
Bob Johnson

Reviews don't justify price-

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Pete Phillips
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Pete Phillips

My ammo is fine Do not have to have the latest and greatest .

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Tyrone Turner
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Tyrone Turner

The way the court system and anti gun thinking is today, it could be looked at as "NAME was wanting the most devastating wound he could inflict. Only intent was to kill." Seems overkill to me

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Michael Minjack
2
Michael Minjack

Don't know a/thing about it !!!!

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Dave Allen
1
Dave Allen

Over kill can turn against you in court

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Danny Gholson
1
Danny Gholson

afraid it will damage my gun.

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Rick Womack
1
Rick Womack

the cost is prohibitive

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Dave Bentley
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Dave Bentley

It's a gimmick. It also makes gun owners look like we're "blood thirsty." It's named "R.I.P." Seriously?

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Jim Burns
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Jim Burns

Unnecessary expense.

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anthonyaumiller
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anthonyaumiller

To expensive I think Gold Dot will work just as good

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Norman Dufault
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Norman Dufault

Sou.ds like it should be banned because it is just too lethal and too expensive. Will cause many law suits and problems for gu n owners.

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Organic Democracy
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Organic Democracy

I know what I need, what works to stop the threat, and my skill combined are most important elements.

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Debbie Morrisset
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Debbie Morrisset

THIS IS A SICK IDEA!

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Dave Hagstrom
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Dave Hagstrom

To much liability and not yet proven.

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Orange Bird
0
Orange Bird

Overpriced and there is plenty of better proven product on the market for less.

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Mike Walker
0
Mike Walker

The price.....

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Samuel A. Grim
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Samuel A. Grim

At least not while it's $242 for a box of 20.

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John Galtwell
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John Galtwell

I've seen some ballistics gel tests, and I wasn't impressed enough to buy it at 50 cents a round, let alone twelve bucks

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June Cannon
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June Cannon

too much collateral damage away from intended impact targeted area

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Robert Chapel
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Robert Chapel

Who needs ammo that will kill everytime? I can understand military use but civilians do not need ammo with this capability. And to spend $12 a round is a bit costly to never use.

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Brandon Williams
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Brandon Williams

Too gimmick-like.

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J.Ed Baker
0
J.Ed Baker

Product is over rated and the advertising hype is wrong for the current time.

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Tom
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Tom

The companies tests are bogus,yes they shoot thru barriers but they DO NOT shoot thru barriers into ballistic gelatin , not even denim.

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Joe Dobson
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Joe Dobson

Whats the purpose of having ammo such as this. Won't be long before it is outlawed anyway...

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Michael Wickett
0
Michael Wickett

There are good companies that make good ammo out there. this just leaves too many questions for and I am a 45acp guy and for a shotgun there had been stuff like this for decades. GOD BLESS AMERICA

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Marc Davids
0
Marc Davids

To expensive and a FMJ will do the same thing. its not necessary especially for that price.

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PaladinFirearms
0
PaladinFirearms

The videos show it.passing.well through and beyond the 18 inch ballistic gelatin. I will shoot to stop thethreat. Not have the bullet pass through to an unintended target.

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Joe DeSimone
0
Joe DeSimone

I knew immediately this round was a joke when their marketing videos showed a bunch of dudes firing full-auto pistols into ballistics gel rather than showing actual ballistics testing results.

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Jim Lagnese
0
Jim Lagnese

Don't need it. If I needed something that destructive, I'll just use one of my rifles. $242 buys a lot of reloading supplies too.

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Mark Hanson
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Mark Hanson

I do like the advancement in technology, and i'm sure there's a nitch for this. For me, there's other effective ammunition on the market which costs much less.

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tan leopard
0
tan leopard

It needs time in the field before I will trust it.

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Harry Vohl
0
Harry Vohl

It's more destructive than necessary. To incapacitate is one thing, to butcher is another.

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Mark Respass
0
Mark Respass

Current expanding hollow points are sufficient.

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Walt Walters
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Walt Walters

I see NO "normal" use for this type of bullet. It reminds me of "cop killers" and I think the company was irresponsible in even considering such a dangerous bullet. I guarantee criminals will love it.

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Matt
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Matt

Too expensive. Hornady xtp work just fine.

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Glen Flint
0
Glen Flint

Too expensive.

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Jeff Cavins
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Jeff Cavins

Based on the test results on the Youtube channel Shootingthebull410. Ammo is overhyped

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Ruben J Rodriguez
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Ruben J Rodriguez

is very expensive. it sounds like over kill. probably you will be in trouble due to the premeditation and intent to kill.

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43%
Yes

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57%
No WINNER

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43%
Yes

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57%
No

9 Comments
Teri Ambach
4
Teri Ambach

The 2nd amendment is to protect *We the People* from a tyrantical government

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Fred Marsico
2
Fred Marsico

Shall not be infringed! Stop trying to disarm the People!

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Rev. Wayne S Pierce
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Rev. Wayne S Pierce

It's a right that we have, that is inalienable, that cannot be taken way whatsoever by our government and it's about our protection, as well as for hunting for food to live.

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Jayson Allen Quilantan
1
Jayson Allen Quilantan

READ the 2nd Amendment! It's SELF-explanatory if you ask me!

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Amy Stearnes
1
Amy Stearnes

It is not just for sport and hunting it is also to protect you and or your family!!

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Greg Kalvelage
1
Greg Kalvelage

the second amendment is meant for killing government officials that go againt the constitution

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Daniel SylvanLake
1
Daniel SylvanLake

Becasue many Forefathers stated clearly why.......

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FeelnYankee
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FeelnYankee

Because the Bill of Rights says nothing about hunting in the 2nd A. This was for defense for the PEOPLE against a tyrannical government.

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