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Should more penalties be added to the 14 day rule?
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1,338 Votes

Should more penalties be added to the 14 day rule?

Yes

24

No

1

Yes

21 Comments
Mark Mueller
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Mark Mueller

Of course. If you or I created a freaking mess, dumped garbage, etc. on public property we would be fined and/or jailed and be responsible for the cleanup. Too bad nobody in govt has the will or the b___s to do anything about it so it will only become a larger festering cancer on our society.

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Jane CommunityMember
Jane CommunityMember

No we wouldn't be jailed, just given a ticket. That's the problem.

Thomas Barrier
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Thomas Barrier

Because living this why and allowing this kind of behavior is unacceptable in our community and anywhere there needs to be stricter laws and rules and regulations to get either these people out of here or get them help one or the other I've lived here my whole life and I've never seen anything like

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Heather Chapman
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Heather Chapman

We work hard to live here . We should be able to use our forest lands and feel safe doing so , Have our families safe , our animals safe . They must be held accountable for wrong actions . We would be

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Teresa Rodriguez
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Teresa Rodriguez

We were cited for the 14 day rule because we stayed from 1st elk season thru 2nd elk season. Our camp was clean and we didn't leave any garbage or damage. All we were doing was hunting. Guess we should have said we were homeless.

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Steve Bernhardt
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Steve Bernhardt

"No Camping" means no camping. Period. China Hat is not a campground. Period. So remove these transients. Holly Jewkes of the Forest Service has blood on her hands for the death of Courtney Carrol due to fire. Holly Jewkes did not enforce the no camping law. Now we have lost a life.

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Jane CommunityMember
Jane CommunityMember

Dispersed camping is permitted in most Forest Land, up to 14 days. The problem is that the Forest Service lacks the authority to enforce that, other than writing tickets.

Lindsey Broderick
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Lindsey Broderick

Public lands are just that, public. There's no right to buy them and the people living there aren't even buying them. They're squatting. And squatting is theft

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Robert Woodworth
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Robert Woodworth

They are destroying the forest for everyone

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Steven Huillet
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Steven Huillet

We need to do much more to protect the innocent people being threatened by dangerous homeless people who have no respect for land owners and visitors to central oregon.

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Your Face
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Your Face

Yes, but it won't be invoked.

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Louis Vaday
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Louis Vaday

People will push the limits cause they know they can. Homeless can get away with ALOT more than people who try. Just one example is litter! I throw litter out the truck window I will get fined. Go figure!!!!

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Jeff Sanders
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Jeff Sanders

China Hat is no longer an option.

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Brian Carpenter
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Brian Carpenter

I pay taxes to live here. Can I go out into the national forrest and build a 3600sqf foot house anywhere I choose and live for free? The USFS would kick me out immediately without any of the excuses they use for the homeless issue.

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Linda C Thornton
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Linda C Thornton

SO Many streets in Bend have become permanent parking places for homeless people! Check over be COSTCO....horrible, messy, unsightly!!!! Not to mention a driving hazard!!!! Linda Thornton Desalibo@aol.com

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Dave Leverick
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Dave Leverick

I shouldn't be surprised it's more of the same government bull How come our Congress person help out

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Kathi McDonald
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Kathi McDonald

This is the most silly question ever! If they are breaking the rule they should be fined like everyone else! To have the local residents that pay taxes and have their residence set up there put up with this is off the chart! Is so wrong! Something needs to be done! Very sad, very wrong!!! Wake UP!

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Joe Ottlinger
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Joe Ottlinger

Absolutely yes. No real punishment is the same as encouragement. These folks need to have a reason to change their situation.

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Kathi McDonald
Kathi McDonald

Absolutely right!!!! To put up with years of this is WRONG!!!!!

Judy West
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Judy West

These homeless people need to get jobs and clean up their messes. They throw all kinds of horrid trash all over the countryside

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Jane CommunityMember
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Jane CommunityMember

Yes but it would apparently need new laws at the Federal level. As it stands now, the only thing the FS can do is issue a ticket.

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Shal Bee
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Shal Bee

The homeless situation is not acceptable and is ruining our forest and public areas to enjoy. A fourteen day rule should apply to everyone.

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Shal Bee
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Shal Bee

The homeless situation is not acceptable and is ruining our forest and public areas to enjoy. A fourteen day rule should apply to everyone.

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Heather Chapman
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Heather Chapman

We work hard to live here . We should be able to use our forest lands and feel safe doing so , Have our families safe , our animals safe . They must be held accountable for wrong actions . We would be

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No

1 Comment
Guy Brooke
2
Guy Brooke

Penalties for the homeless, how does that work ?

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Should a judge block the May first closure of China Hat road?
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974 Votes

Should a judge block the May first closure of China Hat road?

YES

3

NO

19

YES

3 Comments
Louis Vaday
0
Louis Vaday

This made an error! I voted NO and it recorded yes! They shouldn't {and ALL} shouldn't be allowed on all public land because they do not follow rules! Dumping garbage, open flames during fire season, over extending time stay, etc. And now because of them our insurance is going up and land value goin

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Brad Hunter
0
Brad Hunter

Because they are steam rolling the homeless

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NO

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Tammy Salka
1
Tammy Salka

The homeless are not residents, they are squatters!

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Kayla Sulak
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Kayla Sulak

These people have had MONTHS of notice. Nobody ever told them it's acceptable to post up long-term there, so they shouldn't have planted their belongings out there if they have no way to move it. This sets a bad precedent if they're allowed to stay.

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Richard Williams
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Richard Williams

I can no longer use this area of public land for fear of walking into a homeless camp or being attacked by their "pets". This land is for all of us to use, not just the homeless.

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Joanna Lee
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Joanna Lee

Safety should be the biggest concern here. If these people are homeless, they can travel to another area to reside. Forest service doesn't always implement preventative measures. So this being one of the times they do. Its important to make sure it happens. Before there is anymore devastating fires.

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Shane Murray
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Shane Murray

The homeless have trashed the forest out there. It makes me sick

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Greg Deadbolt Leach
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Greg Deadbolt Leach

Time to move these people to the Attorneys and Judges front lawns!!!

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Karen Thrower
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Karen Thrower

The China Hat area has been badly damaged and disrespected by campers.

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Jeannie H.
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Jeannie H.

How is this their "home"? Have they paid property tax like the rest of us? How is this state even justifying this?!?!

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Nancy
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Nancy

They’ve had plenty of time to move. Why can the homeless trash/burn our beautiful forest? Tax paying citizens are only allowed to camp for 14 days! What about the homeowners rights near China Hat, they need to feel safe in their own community! This has gone on way too long and I’m surprised!

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Lynn Marie Leehmann
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Lynn Marie Leehmann

If you look at the Federal Regulations for camping on Federal land it states only 14 days. These people have over stated their welcome, they need to go and they have known about this for at least six months.

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Brad Aimone
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Brad Aimone

It is ironic the Bend Equity Group has filed a lawsuit to block the closure. Where is the indignation for the horrible environmental damage done by these campers who’ve violated the USFS long standing limit of a 14 day stay in a primitive camp site?

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Nancy Roquero
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Nancy Roquero

This has gone on too long. The forests near Woodside community and other neighborhoods need fire protection and protection from the homeless with guns and vicious dogs and the garbage left behind. The homeless have had plenty of notice.

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Lisa York
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Lisa York

the USFS has been planning this burn since Oct 2019... more than enough time for the homeless/advocacy groups to come up with a plan to move...

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Debbie Boyd
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Debbie Boyd

This has been going on for way too long & it is ridiculous to postpone as they have known this needs to be done. The forest needs to be protected & these do gooders are too late to the game & so much time & money spent on homeless with ZERO results. We need DOGE. for Oregon!

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Pam
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Pam

We need to ensure that the lands are managed for the enjoyment/needs of all peoples, not a select few

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pamcuny
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pamcuny

I worry every year WHO is in the woods starting fires, whether deliberate or unintentional consequences…

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Jeff Sanders
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Jeff Sanders

I live near China Hat and used to love going out the with my dog. Once weapons started be pulled on people that stopped. I want my forest back. Good riddance to the whole lot. Don't ever come back.

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Latterdaysaint
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Latterdaysaint

There needs to be more homeless shelters in the city!

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Kim Kahl
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Kim Kahl

The danger of fire starting in this area is incredibly high and impacts large subdivisions. It is mandatory to close this area for the safety of all. This should not be a place for camping to be allowed as it has been.

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Are you concerned about the findings of the DA's investigation into Sheriff Van Der Kamp?
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857 Votes

Are you concerned about the findings of the DA's investigation into Sheriff Van Der Kamp?

Yes

9

No

1

Yes

9 Comments
Timothy MacGillivray
1
Timothy MacGillivray

He should be FIRED immediately as he is the individual in charge of the entire department. He must set the standard of honesty and integrity for both staff and the Public. What type of leader is this? Why is this even being questioned? He faced charges in La Mesa, California as well!

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steven
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steven

I just heard the recording. He lied about lying. Gotta go.

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David Kline
0
David Kline

Sad to see this happen.

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Susan Kate Mayer
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Susan Kate Mayer

Good job DA! Glad someone is doing their job

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Michael Hickey
0
Michael Hickey

Why is he still in this position, come on Deschutes Co. This is pathetic.

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Laura Wattenbarger
0
Laura Wattenbarger

How can he be trusted to be truthful in anything if he lied about even just this one thing? A man in his position shouldn't be lying about anything at all and the fact that he did makes him untrustworthy 100%.

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Anne King
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Anne King

If he can't be honest about such a basic thing as his education, he can't be trusted with Deschutes County's safety! What else has he lied about? He should resign!

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No

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Steven Huillet
0
Steven Huillet

Just more Liberal attacks on Conservative. This is what they do because they lost the elections. Poor losers!

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