Absolutely! We are tired of all the liberals in Salem destroying our once lovely Oregon!
ReplyThe once very beloved state of Oregon is just not so great any more. I thought I'd never consider moving away. I'm an Oregon resident since birth. I was proud to be an Oregonian. We have changed drastically. Sad, very heartbreaking 😢 💔
Portland and Salem dominate the state. We need to have our voices heard. This movement is not going to go away quietly.
Replythe people want it. 1 county is making decisions for all the rest of the state and 90 plus percent of those counties disagree with those decisions and always have, always will and the divide is growing each year. Let the people go.
ReplyWestern oregon and Portland could make policies they like without it affecting the more conservative half of the state. This is not "Idaho stealing your state", its part of the state you never go to anyhow, and its really "Oregonians wanting better policies for their land and liberty rights.
ReplySuspiciously we can't seem to ever vote a Republican in as governor anymore and I don't buy that. Something is very fishy about elections in Oregon from city level to state level. I don't know about red states but it is now proven that blue states are fraught with election fraud. Lawsuits proved it.
ReplyAs a Native Oregonian, I voted for and support the movement because Oregon government no longer represents my values or appreciates the businesses and industries that made Oregon great. Oregon is a cesspool of Socialism, drug addiction and crime. Government schools are an abject failure.
ReplyRural Eastern Oregon have values and traditions that do not fit with mostly the Portland area influences. Urban Oregon and rural areas have grown apart and the rural areas have little representation in the state government. Time for a divorce!
ReplyI am from Oregon, now living in Idaho. I would want the same for my friends and family. Most of the people East of the Cascades have Idaho values. Not all, but quite a few.
ReplyI am from Oregon, now living in Idaho. I would want the same for my friends and family. Most of the people East of the Cascades have Idaho values. Not all, but quite a few.
ReplyThe PEOPLE have spoken. The government should be listening to what the people are saying and the want out from under the woke government of Oregon.
ReplyThis is insane. Idaho wants to steal our state. Outragous, unethical and quite frankly, highly improbable. Good grief; put on your thinking caps, people!
ReplyIdaho is not steeling anything! The East of the Cascade sane people are tired of the Socialist Democrats in Salem ignoring Eastern Oregon. Bend will soon be Mini Portland the way transplants from the west /south are moving in and voting for socialist democrats who love government dictatorship.
Not insane. Please don't insult the good people looking for relief. Idaho is NOT trying to steal anything. This ideas is born from East Oregonians. If you are repressed for as long as rural Oregonians have with little to no chance of changing their power in the legislature you resort to new ideas.
If you want to live in ID, then move. We left Idaho because we didn't like living there. We moved back to Oregon because we love it HERE, not there.
ReplyIf Republicans put up decent candidates, then they might win more elections. They messed up starting with Bill Sizemore and they've done nothing but go downhill ever since.
ReplyIt doesn't matter what Republican candidate is running they will always loose with mail in Voting by just enough.
Democracy isn't a one way street. The territories were claimed hundreds of yrs ago. It's settled borders. I believe that state legislature could work better together. This idea would cause the entire country to recalculate their borders based on political believe. I'd like to re-write the bible.
ReplyDemocracy isn't a one way street. The territories were claimed hundreds of yrs ago. It's settled borders. I believe that state legislature could work better together. This idea would cause the entire country to recalculate their borders based on political believe. I'd like to re-write the bible.
Reply12 Counties sounds like a lot. However, the total population in those counties only makes up for about 9% of the Oregon population. Figuring about 60% voted yes, this is a rather radical change to apease only 5% of the OR population.
ReplyUntil a few days ago, I would have been a yes. However, I now think that it is important for Oregonians to stay and fight for our State.
ReplyI agree with you but for some strange reason when liberals take over you can never seem to get them out. They always seem "to win by a narrow margin". 🤔 If the rural counties want to be part of Idaho what should it matter? Many are tired of the totalitarian dictatorship of liberals.
We've been "fighting for Oregon" for about 40 years. See what that's gotten us? Time to do something different.
Democracy isn't a one way street. The territories were claimed hundreds of yrs ago. It's settled borders. I believe that state legislature could work better together. This idea would cause the entire country to recalculate their borders based on political believe. I'd like to re-write the bible.
ReplyDemocracy isn't a one way street. The territories were claimed hundreds of yrs ago. It's settled borders. I believe that state legislature could work better together. This idea would cause the entire country to recalculate their borders based on political believe. I'd like to re-write the bible.
Replybecause if a 16 year old can enroll into the army, they should at least be able to vote.
ReplyOnly if we bring back civics classes so they understand what they are voting for.
Replykids today are a lot smarter than we were at 16. give 'em a chance to prove themselves.
ReplyThere is a strong case for restoring the voting age to 21 with an exception for individuals serving with the military or who have been honorably discharge
ReplyLiberals have socialist agenda indoctrinating our kids in the school system. They still live under parents roof, wet behind the ears, NO, NO, NO way they should be allowed to vote yet.
ReplyThe age for most activities should be raised, not lowered. Children are still children.
ReplyNO! Children are not taught civics and are too immature. Two basic reasons. It was an idea brought out by politics, not common sense.
ReplyI have a 16 year old. He’s not competent enough to remember to brush his hair and teeth, put deodorant on, put clean clothes on after you shower. No thanks. Leave it to someone who is older.
ReplySome 16 year olds are mature enough to vote but I would say 90% are not. Voting is an important act and has to be considered carefully.
ReplyAt 16 you are to influenced by your peers. At that age you are more concerned with what you will wear out Friday night.
ReplyBecause 16 year olds are not mature enough to be making those kind of decisions.
ReplyOregon leaders, in their infinite wisdom just moved the smoking age to 21, now want 21 to buy firearms, can't sign a contract til 18, nor live on their own. Now they want more voters, soooooo
ReplyAbsolutely not. It has been scientifically proven that brains (reasoning centers) are not fully developed until age 25.
Reply16 is much too young. Wait until they are out of the house and earning their own living. Love their energy and idealism, but needs to be tempered with experience and pragmatism.
ReplyTide pods, condom snorting and common core... I rest my case! Salem doesn't trust people to own a gun until 21, but voting on future policy is fine? Have you met today's teens?
ReplyThey not mature or ready to vote, they still out here doing dumbass challenges like sniffing condoms, go missing for 2 days and eating tide pods.
ReplyYou know, 15 is almost 16, why not them? Drivers license? 15 year olds can get a permit after taking the same test. While were at it, lower the drinking and marijuana ages to 15 also.
ReplyYeah because we all new everything at 16 at least we thought we did. Heck I think its should be raised to 25 that's when you finally figure out you don't know everything
ReplyAt 16 children are vulnerable to peer pressure as well as to people in authority persuading their decisions.
ReplyKids at the age of 16 most likely still live at home with parents, they are not of legal age to make decisions and have not worked full time, paid taxes nor have they paid bills for their own support.
Replynope they shouldn't be given the right to vote, Legally they aren't responsible for their own lives yet, so why should they be given the privilege of controlling the lives of others.
Reply16 year old minds are still developing and changing. No they are barely old enough to know who they are. If you allow them to vote, might as well let them drink, go to war and handle all other adult r
Replyagreed. Wait, they're just kids, you can't expect them to drink and fight. They don't understand the consequences, EXACTLY!
Before you have the privilege of voting, you should have some skin in the game. Like paying taxes. Being old enough to service in the armed forces, be old enough to be accountable for your actions.
ReplyFor heaven's sake! It's all part of the same lefty agenda, just like immigration. Knowing that young people tend to lean liberal it means more Dem votes. They couldn't care less about the kids rights.
ReplyThey're still eating tide pods and burning themselves with erasers and want everything for free are you kidding me it should be raised to 21
ReplyJust because they pay taxes, etc. does not mean they know how to vote.....they don't pay attention and have no interest.
ReplyKids at that age are to vote what parents or other people tell them not using their own mind &/or beliefs. Barely do at 18!!!!!
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