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Ridiculous. It's Batman Forever.
Yep, at least it knows how stupid it is.
At least Batman & Robin doesn’t have the crushing weight of failed ambition on it. I feel like at some point (very early on in its writing process) there was a good version of Batman Forever. As it exists, Batman Forever is more frustrating to me than the completely integrity-free Batman & Robin.
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Not because it's stupid. I find this movie to have a beautiful Bruce/Alfred relationship, a solid arc for Bruce in him having to trust others for help, let go of trying to control things. I may think BF technically a better movie, but this has a stronger Bruce and Alfred elements.
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If we assume Arnie and Jim Carey cancel each other out. Uma Thurman is much better in her role than Tommie Lee Jones and for that reason I’d say Batman and Robin is more watchable
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Batman & Robin may follow the structure laid by Forever (which was itself following Returns’ absent structure), but Schumacher’s second Bat-flick is the only 90’s Batman sequel that has an identifiable central plot.
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Batman and Robin might be the more tonally consistent film of the two, but the best scenes in Batman and Robin are never as good as the best scenes in Batman Forever in my opinion. I also think Batman Forever just tells a better Batman story overall.
ReplyBatman Forever is more balanced and less awkward, but both are better stories than Batman Returns and actually about Batman.
ReplyBatman Forever is obviously the better film because, for all its faults, it's at least trying to be about Batman's character. Batman & Robin is nothing but a feature-length toy commercial. B&R even steals most of its plot from Forever.
ReplyNo way, "Batman Forever" is definitely the better movie of the 2! This is not to say I even dislike "Batman & Robin," as I see it as a harmless flick. However, "Forever" places Batman in the center of the story, executes a well-done Robin origin, and offers up a great Riddler! "Forever" is a blast!
ReplyI don’t think I have to explain anything for this. Batman and Robin is, at least I think, the worst Batman movie. It’s stupid, doesn’t really have a plot, and Batman Forever just is a better movie overall.
ReplyBecause Baan Forever is actually trying trying be a movie about Bruce Wayne's psychology. The first movie to attempt this. Sure Begins would do it better but no other attempt was made before this. Also the tone, costumes and style are so much better. B&R is just a childish rehash
ReplyThe one thing I can appreciate about Forever is the decent attempt and mostly successful character study of Bruce. It's actually the first film before Begins where Bruce is the protagonist. Kilmers performance is underrated too. That's the one thing that makes it better for me.
ReplyKiss from a rose
ReplyWhile I can enjoy B&R for the reason of it knowing how stupid it is, Forever though has genuinely well done ideas, concepts, set pieces, with it feeling like an early 70s Batman comic book
ReplyYou’re a little early for April Fools ya know
ReplyIt's just a better written and acted movie hands down. People want to give Batman and Robin too much because it's admittedly received far too much vitriol, but that should lead to us proclaiming such a poor film good (or even decent - this one is quite bad).
ReplyWha??? Who is saying that?
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